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No In Person Latihans TFN (UPDATE)

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

All latihans in Seattle and on the Eastside are not happening in person until further notice. Fridays will be simultaneous Latihan (quiet time 7:45, Latihan at 8pm) but no call-in. Tuesday and Sundays will be by call-in:

Quiet time 11:00 AM Latihan 11:15 AM to
11:45 AM Men and women may now dial in on any of the
following numbers:

1 (712) 832-8330
1 (605) 475 2879

After you’re connected please use the appropriate code to
connect to your group:
Women’s code 242 6147
Men’s code 863 2438

Paul Nelson is hosting 40 minute Zoom calls AFTER Sunday Latihan starting at 12N and ending  at 1:00 until further notice. Meeting info for Sunday, March 29:

Join Zoom Meeting

Meeting ID: 988 202 1449

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We believe it is time to heed the impact that the coronavirus is having and will increasingly continue to have on our community.

Many of us are in high risk groups; over 65 years old, underlying health conditions, or both. King County issued an order March 16th which applies to Subud gatherings, and many other events.
Here is a link to the proclamation.


Here is how the order applies to us.

Events with fewer than 50 people are prohibited unless event organizers observe the following
COVID-19 prevention measures:

Older adults and individuals with underlying medical conditions that are at increased risk of serious COVID-19 are encouraged not to attend (including

CDC recommends that individuals at risk of severe illness should stay at home, avoiding gatherings or other situations of potential exposures, including travel, church attendance, and social events with 10 or more people.

• • •

Social distancing recommendations must be met (I.e., limit contact of people within 6 feet from each other for 10 minutes or longer).

Suggestions: Event organizers should ask themselves: how close will people be and for how long? Ensure that your event is organized in such way to avoid close contact between people. Washington Department of Health advises that “being within 6 feet of a sick person with COVID-19 for about 10 minutes” constitutes close contact which could result in exposure. Employees must be screened for coronavirus symptoms each day and excluded if symptomatic. CDC guidelines identify the key symptoms to watch for as fever, cough and shortness of breath.

Proper hand hygiene and sanitation must be readily available to all attendees and employees. CDC recommends that people wash their hands often, and if soap and water is not readily available, use hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol, and to avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands. Environmental cleaning guidelines from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are followed (e.g., clean and disinfect high touch surfaces daily or more frequently).

CDC provides detailed environmental and disinfection recommendations. It is possible that some of us already have coronavirus. Here’s a link regarding that you might find interesting.


What can we do?

Shift to remote latihans at all locations. Sunday Call-in Latihans Our Subud PNW Regional Helpers are offering a Sunday conference call latihan. Here are the details:

Quiet time 11:00 AM Latihan 11:15 AM to
11:45 AM Men and women may now dial in on any of the
following numbers:
1 (218) 339-7800
1 (712) 832-8330
1 (605) 475 2879

After you’re connected please use the appropriate code to
connect to your group:
Women’s code 242 6147
Men’s code 863 2438

This is likely to continue for a significant amount of time, unfortunately. Fortunately, the sooner we begin to limit interactions, the sooner we can expect a return to normalcy.

Latihan under Duress!

A point of comparison for call-in latihans:

Our long-time member Amrin Ngon Van Ho was opened in Vietnam many, many years ago. When Vietnam had a communist government, Subud and latihans were prohibited.  In order to continue practicing latihan, the Subud group that Amrin belonged to at the time would organize bicycle rides, and do their latihan while riding!


Treasurer’s Report for June/July

Subud Greater Seattle Treasurer Summary Report for June & July

Income and expenses

Building Rentals

We had a 3 AirBnB and 1 hall rental in June and July resulting in income of $1880.

In our June and July meetings your committee met to discuss options for future income. We are still reviewing those options. We have met with 3 different leasing agents to get their view of income potential. We have also asked the helpers for some guidance through testing. 

We do not believe that our current rental business is sustainable.


Donations have been lower during the summer.  I am hoping that with the end of summer more people will be able to donate. We are averaging about $1658 per month which is below what is needed to maintain our building.  The rental income in the last two months helped to cushion that shortfall. 

June and July Expenses

Our expenses are being kept to the minimum required to keep the building healthy and looking great for a potential renter. In order to maintain this appearance, we need to continue to pay for cleaning, gas, electricity, water and garbage. There are certain fixed costs from PSE and Seattle utilities for electricity, water and garbage which, though reduced, continue. Seattle utilities water and garbage costs in particular remain pretty much the same as before. We are also continuing our $300 a month contribution to the region.

Future Expenses

In looking at the average costs needed to keep the building running since March against the average amount of donations coming from members, we have a shortfall of a little over $500 a month.  This shortfall is currently being covered through the current positive balance in our checking account.

Fixed costs on top of that for insurance and taxes amounting to an estimated $2800 will also have to be paid out of the available balance.

Your Donations As Important As Ever

Your committee appreciates everyone’s financial support of our center during this time of great transition for all of us.  Your continued donations are vital if we are to cover our costs through the end of the year.  Thank you for your continued support.

Important! New name for donation checks to Subud Greater Seattle

Use only “Subud PNW – Seattle Center” on any future donations to our center.  Bank rules, recently changed, are delaying deposits.  Please be sure to change the “Pay To The Order Of” section of your handwritten or automatic withdrawn check from your account and use this name.

If you intend to make your donation to the Region, please earmark your check Subud PNW.

Pledges still being accepted

Please fill out a pledge form online if you haven’t already.

Thanks for those who have setup monthly donations

Thanks to all our monthly donators who have a recurring donation sent from their bank.  You save on envelopes and stamps.  And, you don’t have to remind yourselves to write a check. These regular checks really help us meet our monthly commitments to the region and pay for our use of our facilities. 

If you’d like to know how to setup a recurring donation to our group through your bank, please contact me.

Letter from Asa Lake


Asa was the wife of Oswald Lake and early members of Subud.  They both passed on years ago but this letter was recently posted in the SICA news.

“1959 was the year of our opening. The room was filled with hundreds of people screaming, crying and moaning after a “begin” was said by a little foreign woman I could barely see in the front of a huge room in Alhambra, California. We had driven all the way from Santa Monica after a three-month probation in this mysterious group called SUBUD. After this experience, we stood on the sidewalk outside the building and compared notes. What did you feel? None of us knew much about what had happened in the latihan, but we knew we felt wonderful! SO with that began our years in Subud. Our little world was expandable to include all manner of interesting and odd brothers and sisters who suddenly became important to us. Oswald was almost immediately on the committee, and I naturally came along. We never had marvelous “spiritual experiences” or “crisis” — but we always felt fresh and new and wonderful after latihan.

We read everything we could find and did our latihan and work in the world — and knew almost nothing until 1963. That was the year of the World Congress in New York. There we came to know Bapak and Ibu, Tuti, Ismana, Usman & Aminah, and that’s where Bapak did “testing” in the group in front of every one. The testing gave us a deeper experience of the latihan and meeting with the brothers and sisters from around the world gave us a happier feeling about “the brotherhood” of Subud than we could have from just knowing the group in California. That was the first time we drove Bapak and party in our car. Little did we know it was a preview of having Bapak come to our home!

I think of these as rich, fulfilling years… our children grew, we grew… We started SNA (Subud North America), the precursor to Subud USA, and our lives and hearts expanded to hold more and more.

There were always a thousand levels of everything. Heaven and Hell were always combining and intertwining and the fruits of the latihan seemed to always be there to save us from falling into the Magnetism of any one of these levels to the detriment of embracing the present. God is Good! It was a grand beginning and a gift from heaven. Time hardly seems to have passed, yet here it is, 1999, and here we still are — Oswald and Asa, married 50 years this past June, have five grandchildren, still doing the latihan…and doing nothing wonderful in our lives. I had expected at least WINGS by this time — or to have experienced the Cosmos personally! But, I was one destined to be ordinary.

Ordinary? Of late, I remember Bapak saying that’s what we SHOULD be, and as the world gets more and more crazy with each passing day, I have learned to treasure my ordinariness as the “pearl of great price”. I believe that it is important to do latihan for reasons far beyond ourselves and beyond our understanding. It’s as if we form a bridge for the latihan energy to penetrate this level, and this is important for the Earth itself — and our duty to Almighty God in response to the constant blessings with which he fills our lives. When all other reasons fail, we keep on doing latihan because it is the only choice we have.

Love, Asa

June 20, 2020 Dewan Minutes

Dewan Meeting 06.20.2020

Jim O’Halloran          Chair
Bhakti Watts             Vice Chair
Oswald Norton        Treasurer
Ramon Hildreth       Secretary
Rayma Norton         Helper
Elisha Gullixson       Helper

Moment of Quiet.

Meeting called to order at 10:08 AM

Check in with each other

Review of Agenda and agreement.

Minutes: Oswald made a motion to approve May minutes, Jim seconded. Approved unanimously with minor corrections emailed by Jim.

Enterprise rental:
-Decide on a description – how to offer the property
-Where do we list the property
-Who is the right person to be the contact – Oswald is willing to do this. Oswald is going to contact the Seattle School for Boys again to see if there is still a possibility of leasing the house to them.

Oswald moves that the $3,000 that we received from the Airbnb’s super-host grant program be applied to Paul’s overpayment of commissions for 2020. Jim seconded.
Ramon, Oswald & Jim agreed, Bhakti abstained.

Financial/Budget: Oswald’s summary in separate document.

Insurance: Portland completed and documented their outstanding items, so our regional insurance will not be cancelled.

Helper Reports:
Women: Rayma – down one regional helper – local helpers are pitching in.

Men: New way of doing helper work – is challenging and the Men helpers seem to doing ok

New Business:
Domain Registration – will ask David Innes to make sure our Who is info is not public.

Disbursement: Bhakti made a motion to provide a one-time donation to the region of 300 based on the income we got from the AirBnb grant. Jim seconded.
Motion passed unanimously.

Re-opening Latihan: Jim will put together a statement of the conditions for starting group latihan again. and have the committee review and then send the helpers.

Next committee meeting will be July 18th – 10:00 AM.

Committee will provide an update during the afternoon Sunday Zoom meeting.

Ramon moved that we adjourn the meeting. Oswald seconded, all in favor.

Meeting closed at 11:49 AM.

No Menucha 2020

A Letter from the Regional Helpers re Menucha

Dear brothers and sisters of Subud Pacific North West

The Regional Helpers have been meeting every week via Zoom in order to keep in touch with regards to the needs and welfare of the region and membership in this difficult time. We are also doing latihan simultaneously and meeting with the Regional Committee one of those weeks every month.

This past week we tested about Menucha. It was already obvious because of the mandated restrictions and resurgence of the Corona virus that it would be inordinately difficult to have anything like the Menucha gathering we have all known and loved.

From the testing it was clear that it was best for the membership and the region to let it go for 2020. It was also clear that that space and time felt very empty without it. So we are exploring the possibilities for one or more kejiwaan events via Zoom in the near future, at least one around the time when the gathering at Menucha would ordinarily have been held.

We are here to serve you all as well as the region. Please feel free to call on us as needed, to stay in communication, etc. Honora has received to be temporarily inactive at this time but has not left the dewan.
With love and good wishes from your Regional Helpers

Albert, David, Elisa, Honora, Leonard, & Rosalyn